Football Recruiting - A Different Type of Analysis
Part 3: Evaluating Quality of Recruits by Number of Offers
by Phil Martin, 6/15/05
Click here for Part 1: Head-to-Head Recruiting
Click here for Part 2: Geographic Breakdown of Recruiting
In the first two articles we looked at Tech�s overall recruiting, first in
head-to-head competition and second by location. Tech has an impressive record
head-to-head against the recruiting competition and obviously does very well
in-state, but are the Hokies landing the top recruits on their board and
fulfilling their positional needs? How does Virginia Tech do for the top players
as opposed to lesser recruited players? Now that Tech is in the ACC, are the
Hokies recruiting a higher-caliber player? This article will attempt to address
these questions and more.
Another aspect to the statistics shown in the previous two articles is to
look at the total number of offers per player that Tech has offered. In other
words, we can answer the question of how heavily recruited the players were that
Tech offered. The following table shows the average number of offers from all
colleges for players with a Virginia Tech offer for the last four years:
Table 1 - Average Offers per Recruit Offered by VT |
Year |
Total Offers |
VT Offers |
Average Offers |
2004-2005 |
1057 |
87 |
12.1 |
2003-2004 |
907 |
70 |
13.0 |
2002-2003 |
660 |
65 |
10.2 |
2001-2002 |
756 |
73 |
10.4 |
TOTAL |
3380 |
295 |
11.5 |
Obviously, since Tech was accepted into the ACC two years ago, the caliber of
player being recruited has increased (assuming that the number of offers for a
player is correlated to his ability). The Hokies are now facing more competition
in recruiting than ever before, but how is Tech doing signing these more heavily
recruited players? The following table shows the average number of offers for
players signing with Virginia Tech for the last four years:
Table 2 - Average Offers per Virginia Tech Signee |
Year |
Total Offers per VT Signee |
VT Signees |
Average Offers per VT Signee |
2004-2005 |
184 |
22 |
8.4 |
2003-2004 |
108 |
19 |
5.7 |
2002-2003 |
157 |
22 |
7.1 |
2001-2002 |
99 |
19 |
5.2 |
TOTAL |
548 |
82 |
6.7 |
From this data we can clearly see that Tech is not having as much success for
the more heavily recruited players that the Hokies have offered, as evidenced by
the fact that the average offers per signee (6.7) is less than the average
offers per recruit offered (11.5). The encouraging news is that last year�s
recruits were easily the most heavily recruited class of the last four years, so
Tech�s membership in the ACC and winning their first football championship
obviously paid dividends last year.
Another aspect of this data is that Tech�s recruiting classes could be
ranked based on the average offers per signee. Last year, 2004-2005 would rate
as the strongest class followed by 2002-2003 (Xavier Adibi, Vince Hall),
2003-2004 (Eddie Royal, Kent Hicks), and lastly 2001-2002 (Marcus Vick, Jonathan
Lewis). This conclusion would appear to be mostly consistent with the
head-to-head recruiting records (Table 2) provided in the first article.
So, why is Tech unable to sign a higher percentage of heavily recruited
players? Are most of these players out-of-state and Tech�s regional advantage
in recruiting negated? Does Tech tend to offer a greater number of �lesser�
recruited players in Virginia as opposed to out-of-state? The following table
may provide some of these answers. This table represents the average number of
offers per state for the last four years. I have added the percentage signed
information from Table 1 in the second article to look at the possible inverse
correlation between number of offers and likelihood of signing.
Table 3 - Average Offers by State for VT Recruits for
the Last Four Years |
State |
Total Offers |
Recruits |
Average Offers |
Percentage Signed |
Virginia |
598 |
85 |
7.0 |
.647 |
Florida |
521 |
39 |
13.4 |
.179 |
North Carolina |
404 |
38 |
10.6 |
.132 |
New Jersey |
554 |
34 |
16.3 |
.088 |
Maryland |
246 |
20 |
12.3 |
.150 |
Pennsylvania |
351 |
20 |
17.6 |
.000 |
South Carolina |
160 |
12 |
13.3 |
.083 |
Georgia |
98 |
10 |
9.8 |
.122 |
Tennessee |
49 |
6 |
8.2 |
.333 |
Washington, DC |
65 |
6 |
10.8 |
.667 |
New York |
64 |
4 |
16.0 |
.000 |
Delaware |
32 |
3 |
10.7 |
.000 |
Texas |
53 |
3 |
17.7 |
.000 |
Ohio |
28 |
3 |
9.3 |
.000 |
West Virginia |
25 |
2 |
12.5 |
.000 |
Kentucky |
29 |
2 |
14.5 |
.000 |
Michigan |
30 |
2 |
15.0 |
.000 |
Indiana |
35 |
2 |
17.5 |
.000 |
Alabama |
15 |
2 |
7.5 |
.000 |
Louisiana |
14 |
1 |
14.0 |
.000 |
Wisconsin |
9 |
1 |
9.0 |
.000 |
TOTAL |
3380 |
295 |
11.5 |
.278 |
From this data we can clearly see that Tech offers a broader number of
players in Virginia than in other states (assuming that a proportional amount of
talent exists in Virginia and that other schools recruit Virginia as hard as
other states). The average out-of-state recruit for Virginia Tech has 13.2
offers as opposed to just 7.0 in Virginia. Also, a correlation appears to exist
between distance from Blacksburg and the number of offers. In other words,
Virginia Tech tends to recruit more sought after players in areas outside of the
Hokies� normal recruiting territory. However, a question remains with regards
to this data. Could the averages be skewed by a heavily recruited player, i.e.,
could one player with a large number of offers distort the results?
To better understand the distribution of recruiting data, I have divided the
recruits into four groups based on number of offers: (1) 20 or more offers; (2)
10-19 offers; (3) 5-9 offers; and (4) 1-4 offers. Generally, I have found the
dividing line between �national� recruits and �regional� recruits is
about 10 offers, so I set these groupings based upon this generalization. The
following table shows Virginia Tech�s recruiting success for each of these
four groups for the last four years:
Table 4 - In-State vs. Out-of-State Recruiting Records
by Recruit Offer Level |
Recruit
Grouping
|
In-State |
Out-of-State |
Offered |
Signed |
Pct. |
Offered |
Signed |
Pct. |
20+ Offers |
4 |
2 |
.500 |
41 |
1 |
.024 |
10-19 Offers |
19 |
9 |
.474 |
92 |
8 |
.087 |
5-9 Offers |
24 |
12 |
.500 |
56 |
6 |
.107 |
1-4 Offers |
38 |
32 |
.842 |
21 |
12 |
.571 |
TOTAL |
85 |
55 |
.647 |
209 |
26 |
.129 |
By analyzing Virginia Tech�s recruiting by offer level, several conclusions
can be reached. In the state of Virginia, the Hokies sign about half of the
recruits offered that have five or more offers. Oddly, Tech�s success with
more heavily recruited players in Virginia is about the same regardless of the
number of total offers received by the player. In other words, Tech�s success
recruiting Virginia does not decrease proportionately with an increase in
offers for a recruit. Also, the Hokies are extremely successful for players with
four or fewer offers (84% in-state and 57% out-of-state). In case you wondered,
only six players had just an offer from Virginia Tech (all from Virginia), so
single offer recruits are not skewing the results.
Tech�s recruiting success for out-of-state players that are heavily
recruited seems more logical with the signing percentage decreasing
proportionately with an increase in the number of offers for a recruit. However,
a wide disparity exists between the success rate for heavily recruited players
(7.9% signing rate for players with five or more offers) and lesser recruited
players (57.1% signing rate for players with four or less offers).
In short, Virginia Tech has experienced considerable success in recruiting
the state of Virginia, but the Hokies have had limited success in recruiting
highly sought after players from outside of the state. However, just measuring
the overall success rate of recruiting does not necessarily answer the question
of how well individual team needs are being met. For example, if a team recruits
a large number of standout linebackers but fails to recruit quality defensive
linemen, is that team successful even though their signing success rate might be
very high? To fully understand recruiting success, we need to evaluate how
positional needs are being met as well.
The following table breaks down Virginia Tech�s overall success in signing
specific positions over the last four years. Note that the positions listed for
a recruit are the most likely position to be played for VT as indicated in
recruiting reports and not necessarily the position that eventually was played.
Table 5 - Recruiting by Position for the Last Four Years |
Pos. |
2004-2005 |
2003-2004 |
2002-2003 |
2001-2002 |
Total |
Pct. |
Sign |
Offer |
Sign |
Offer |
Sign |
Offer |
Sign |
Offer |
Sign |
Offer |
WR |
1 |
8 |
4 |
10 |
2 |
11 |
2 |
11 |
9 |
40 |
.225 |
TE |
1 |
4 |
2 |
3 |
2 |
5 |
0 |
4 |
5 |
16 |
.313 |
OL |
4 |
17 |
2 |
7 |
3 |
5 |
2 |
7 |
11 |
36 |
.306 |
QB |
2 |
6 |
1 |
4 |
1 |
9 |
1 |
7 |
5 |
26 |
.192 |
FB |
1 |
1 |
1 |
1 |
0 |
1 |
0 |
2 |
2 |
5 |
.400 |
TB |
1 |
5 |
2 |
7 |
1 |
6 |
1 |
6 |
5 |
24 |
.208 |
DE |
1 |
9 |
1 |
10 |
3 |
6 |
2 |
10 |
7 |
35 |
.200 |
DT |
3 |
9 |
1 |
7 |
2 |
5 |
4 |
9 |
10 |
30 |
.333 |
LB |
2 |
10 |
2 |
11 |
3 |
7 |
1 |
5 |
8 |
33 |
.242 |
DB |
5 |
17 |
3 |
10 |
5 |
10 |
5 |
11 |
18 |
48 |
.375 |
P/PK |
1 |
1 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
1 |
1 |
2 |
2 |
1.000 |
TOT |
22 |
87 |
19 |
70 |
22 |
65 |
19 |
73 |
82 |
295 |
.278 |
Looking just at the signing percentages, Tech appears to have the most
success recruiting defensive backs and defensive tackles with the least success
recruiting quarterbacks, defensive ends, and running backs. However, these
results do not measure how heavily recruited the players for each position are,
so we have no way of knowing if Tech may have elite recruits at quarterback or
running back. To better analyze the positional recruiting, I have broken down
the recruiting by level of offers as presented in Table 4. The following table
provides a positional summary of Virginia Tech�s recruiting by the four
groupings of offers received by a player.
Table 6 - Recruiting by Position by Recruit Offer Level |
Pos. |
20+ Offers |
10-19 Offer |
5-9 Offers |
1-4 Offers |
Total |
Pct. |
Sign |
Offer |
Sign |
Offer |
Sign |
Offer |
Sign |
Offer |
Sign |
Offer |
WR |
0 |
7 |
1 |
18 |
3 |
8 |
5 |
7 |
9 |
40 |
.225 |
TE |
0 |
3 |
1 |
4 |
2 |
5 |
2 |
4 |
5 |
16 |
.313 |
OL |
1 |
7 |
1 |
7 |
1 |
13 |
8 |
9 |
11 |
36 |
.306 |
QB |
0 |
5 |
3 |
12 |
1 |
7 |
1 |
2 |
5 |
26 |
.192 |
FB |
0 |
0 |
0 |
2 |
1 |
2 |
1 |
1 |
2 |
5 |
.400 |
TB |
0 |
4 |
2 |
13 |
1 |
5 |
2 |
2 |
5 |
24 |
.208 |
DE |
0 |
4 |
2 |
19 |
2 |
6 |
3 |
6 |
7 |
35 |
.200 |
DT |
0 |
5 |
3 |
11 |
2 |
9 |
5 |
5 |
10 |
30 |
.333 |
LB |
1 |
8 |
1 |
9 |
2 |
9 |
4 |
7 |
8 |
33 |
.242 |
DB |
1 |
2 |
3 |
16 |
3 |
16 |
11 |
14 |
18 |
48 |
.375 |
P/PK |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
2 |
2 |
2 |
2 |
1.000 |
TOT |
3 |
45 |
17 |
111 |
18 |
80 |
44 |
59 |
82 |
295 |
.278 |
Overall Tech appears to be fairly balanced in recruiting positions with one
exception � offensive line. The Hokies have only landed three highly recruited
offensive linemen in the last four years. The most surprising position has to be
quarterback with four heavily recruited signal callers inking with Tech in the
last four years. Normally I would like to see a �two-deep� signed with
highly recruited players (five or more offers) and at least one elite player
(ten or more offers) every four years. Based on these criteria only four
positions come up short: Offensive line, which is short on both depth and
quality; Fullback, which is not surprising since few high school fullbacks are
highly recruited; Defensive Back, which lacks sufficient depth; and Punter/Place
Kicker, which are seldom heavily recruited. Note that these four positions are
probably the least recruited out of high school, so the results are not
surprising, i.e., OL, FB, DB, and P/PK probably have the fewest offers of any
position in high school in proportion to college team needs.
Of course, just recruiting quality athletes is meaningless if the players do
not stay on the team. Six of the 38 highly recruited players in the last four
years are no longer on the squad. Twelve of these players are currently on the
two-deep in the latest depth chart and eleven are in the last recruiting class,
thus only nine heavily-recruited players have yet to crack the two-deep (six of
these players are in their second year).
Of course, rating players just by offers cannot be conclusive since many
players may not have numerous offers for several valid reasons. Some players,
such as Aaron Rouse, committed early, though Rouse certainly would have had
greater than five offers while other players, such as Jimmy Williams, were
academically questionable, thus limiting the number of official offers. A small
number of players, such as Xavier Adibi, were not highly recruited because many
colleges thought their destination was known (�silent verbal�) and did not
want to expend the effort and resources for a recruit that had little chance of
signing with their school.
To give some idea of the predictability of heavily recruited players
contributing at Virginia Tech, I have provided the latest two-deep depth chart
and the players� recruiting level:
Table 7 � 2005 Projected VT Two-Deep and Recruiting
Offers |
First String |
Pos. |
Name |
Year |
1-4 Offers |
5-9 Offers |
10+ Offers |
SE |
Josh Hyman |
r-So. |
X |
|
|
TE |
Jeff King |
r-Sr. |
|
X |
|
OT |
Jimmy Martin |
Sr. |
|
X |
|
OT |
Reggie Butler |
Sr. |
X |
|
|
OG |
Will Montgomery |
r-Sr. |
X |
|
|
OG |
Jason Murphy |
r-Sr. |
|
X |
|
OC |
Danny McGrath |
r-Jr. |
X |
|
|
QB |
Marcus Vick |
r-Jr. |
|
|
X |
FLK |
Eddie Royal |
So. |
|
X |
|
FB |
Jesse Allen |
r-Jr. |
X |
|
|
TB |
Cedric Humes |
r-Sr. |
|
|
X |
DE |
Darryl Tapp |
Sr. |
X |
|
|
DE |
Noland Burchette |
r-Jr. |
|
X |
|
DT |
Jonathan Lewis |
Sr. |
|
|
X |
DT |
Carlton Powell |
r-So. |
X |
|
|
LB |
Vince Hall |
r-So. |
|
|
X |
LB |
Xavier Adibi |
r-So. |
X |
|
|
Whip |
James Anderson |
r-Sr. |
X |
|
|
CB |
Jimmy Williams |
Sr. |
X |
|
|
CB |
Roland Minor |
r-So. |
X |
|
|
Rover |
Cary Wade |
r-Jr. |
X |
|
|
FS |
D.J. Parker |
So. |
X |
|
|
Second String |
Pos. |
Name |
Year |
1-4 Offers |
5-9 Offers |
10+ Offers |
SE |
Josh Morgan |
So. |
|
|
X |
TE |
Duane Brown |
r-So. |
|
X |
|
OT |
Brandon Frye |
r-Jr. |
X |
|
|
OT |
Nick Marshman |
r-Fr. |
X |
|
|
OG |
Brandon Gore |
r-Jr. |
|
|
X |
OG |
Mike Parham |
r-Jr. |
X |
|
|
OC |
Ryan Shuman |
r-Fr. |
X |
|
|
QB |
Sean Glennon |
So. |
X |
|
|
FLK |
David Clowney |
Jr. |
|
X |
|
FB |
Carlton Weatherford |
r-So. |
X |
|
|
TB |
Mike Imoh |
Sr. |
|
|
X |
DE |
Chris Ellis |
r-So. |
|
|
X |
DE |
Orion Martin |
r-So. |
X |
|
|
DT |
Tim Sandidge |
r-Sr. |
X |
|
|
DT |
Barry Booker |
r-So. |
X |
|
|
LB |
Brett Warren |
So. |
X |
|
|
LB |
Blake Warren |
r-Sr. |
X |
|
|
Whip |
Corey Gordon |
r-So. |
|
X |
|
CB |
Brandon Flowers |
r-Fr. |
X |
|
|
CB |
Theodore Miller |
r-Fr. |
X |
|
|
Rover |
Aaron Rouse |
r-Jr. |
X |
|
|
FS |
Justin Hamilton |
r-Sr. |
|
|
X |
TOTAL |
27 |
8 |
9 |
As you can clearly see, the majority of Tech�s two-deep has not been
heavily recruited. Historically, Virginia Tech has done an excellent job at
finding �diamonds in the rough,� such as Darryl Tapp, and developing
walk-ons, such as Will Montgomery. However, if you look at the �impact�
players for Tech, the vast majority was highly recruited or there was a reason,
such as academics, that they were not offered by a lot of schools.
The areas of the depth chart that fans tend to question the most are
generally manned by lesser recruited players. When looking at Tech�s total
roster, I only see one player, D.J. Walton, that was heavily recruited that has
had a disappointing career to date, and he is in contention for the two-deep.
Other players, such as Tripp Carroll, have had injury concerns that have
curtailed their progress, or are still developing (John Kinzer).
Fans will endlessly debate the value of recruiting ratings, but in my opinion
a clear relationship exists between highly recruited players and impact on the
football field. Ultimately, the success of any recruiting class is measured by
the productivity of the players, but the correlation between the recruiting
level and the likelihood of later success on the field has been proven to be
fairly high.
In the next article, last year�s recruiting class will be broken down in
detail and I will provide my evaluation of Tech�s success in filling needs by
position.
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