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What the ACC Might Look Like Without VT and Miami
by Will Stewart,
TechSideline.com
When I was a kid, one of
my favorite comic books was a series by Marvel Comics called "What
If?" Each issue they would ask a different question, like "What if
Spider-man joined the Fantastic Four?" or "What if the world knew
Daredevil was blind?" and then write a "giant-sized" comic based
on that premise.
So I got to thinking, "What if
Miami and VT weren't in the ACC football conference this year?" What would
the standings look like?
First, let's take a look at this
year's standings -- I'll forgive you if you get lost and stare at the Hokies in
first place for a while. (Take all the time you need.)
2004
ACC Standings |
School |
ACC |
Overall |
Bowl
Game |
Virginia
Tech |
7-1 |
10-2 |
Sugar
Bowl |
Florida
State |
6-2 |
8-3 |
Gator
Bowl |
Miami |
5-3 |
8-3 |
Peach
Bowl |
Virginia |
5-3 |
8-3 |
MPC
Computers Bowl |
North
Carolina |
5-3 |
6-5 |
Continental
Tire Bowl |
Georgia
Tech |
4-4 |
6-5 |
Champs
Sports Bowl |
Clemson |
4-4 |
6-5 |
-- |
Maryland |
3-5 |
5-6 |
-- |
NC
State |
3-5 |
5-6 |
-- |
Wake
Forest |
1-7 |
4-7 |
-- |
Duke |
1-7 |
2-9 |
-- |
Now, what if the Hokies and Canes
weren't in the ACC? What would the standings look like?
If you take Miami and VT out of the
mix and look at the ACC as a 9-team conference by subtracting out games
involving those two teams, you don't wind up with a full conference schedule or
regular-season schedule for anyone in the league. So you have to project the
outcomes of games unplayed, always a risky proposition.
Still, it's an interesting
exercise, and if you do it, what you're probably really doing is looking at what
the conference standings may have been late in the season, with 1 or 2 games
left to go for everyone in the conference. Then you fill in the blanks.
2004
ACC Standings
(Without Miami and VT) |
School |
ACC |
Overall |
Didn't
Play |
Projection
*
|
FSU |
6-1 |
8-2 |
GT |
7-1
(9-2), BCS Bowl |
Virginia |
5-1 |
8-1 |
Wake,
NCSU |
7-1
(10-1), Gator Bowl |
UNC |
4-2 |
5-4 |
Clemson,
MD |
6-2
(7-4), Peach Bowl |
GT |
4-2 |
6-3 |
FSU,
Wake |
5-3
(7-4), Champs Sports Bowl |
Clemson |
3-4 |
5-5 |
UNC |
4-4
(5-6) |
Maryland |
3-4 |
5-5 |
UNC |
3-5
(5-6) |
NC
State |
2-4 |
4-5 |
UVa,
Duke |
3-5 (5-6) |
Wake |
1-5 |
4-5 |
UVa,
GT |
1-7 (4-7) |
Duke |
1-6 |
2-8 |
NCSU |
1-7 (2-9) |
*
Projections:
FSU beats GT
UVa beats Wake, NCSU
UNC beats Clemson, MD
GT beats Wake
NCSU beats Duke |
If the projections shown in the
table panned out as written -- UNC beating Clemson and GT beating Wake are the
shakiest, in my opinion -- then the ACC would only have four teams qualifying
for six bowls, leaving the Continental Tire and MPC Computer Bowls with no ACC
team.
Figuring out who among FSU and UVa
would go to the BCS bowl is also iffy, because UVa might actually win the ACC's
bid to a BCS bowl, despite losing to FSU. The ACC's two-team tiebreaker
essentially says that if Team A (FSU) beats Team B (UVa), then FSU gets the BCS
bid, unless UVa's BCS ranking is five places higher than FSU's. There are other
provisions, as you can see here in an excerpt from the ACC's web site for tiebreaking
procedures:
Two Way Tie (between Teams A
& B)
1. Team A defeats Team B and is
ranked higher - Team A earns the BCS bid.
2. Team A defeats Team B and is ranked lower, but in the Top 10 - Team A earns
bid (*except if Team B is ranked #1 or #2 in the BCS standings, then Team B
earns the BCS bid).
3. Team A defeats Team B and is ranked lower, but is ranked five or fewer
positions below Team B - Team A earns the BCS bid.
4. Team A defeats Team B and is ranked lower, and more than five positions
below Team B - Team B earns the BCS bid.
It can make your brain
hurt to try to figure out -- given that FSU had beaten UVa -- how the BCS
rankings of those two teams would have come out. Virginia would have suffered no
other losses, but FSU was beaten by Florida late in the season, and that may
have made the Noles wind up too low in the BCS, and UVa might have gone to the
BCS bowl, instead. I like Virginia's odds, because the Cavaliers finished 18th
in the BCS this season, just two spots behind #16 FSU. If you subtract out two
losses for UVa and one loss for FSU, the Cavaliers might have caught the
Seminoles.
Without Miami and VT in the
conference, FSU and Virginia were clearly the class of the ACC. FSU stumbled
against Maryland, but without Miami and VT, there's no way that UNC, GT,
Maryland et al could have challenged FSU and UVa. It would have been a two-horse
race.
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Tech Talk Tuesday Archive for 12/7/04 (Streaming Audio) by TechSideline.com, 12/9/04, 1:10 pm
Tech Talk Tuesday goes over the Miami game and talks with VT QB coach Kevin Rogers about the development of Bryan Randall.
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Sugar Sweet by Jim Alderson, 12/9/04, 11:00 am
2004 ACC Football Champions. Taste it. Balance it on your
tongue and savor the delightful flavor. Roll it around and experience the
full-bodied essence. Sit back and let the palate enjoy the richness. It tastes
pretty good, doesn’t it? As sweet as Sugar.
in TSL Pass
Bryan
Randall Wins Dudley Award by Chris James, TechSideline.com, 12/9/04, 12:10 am
The honors continued to roll in Wednesday night for Virginia Tech senior quarterback Bryan Randall.
Two days after collecting an $18,000 post graduate scholarship and a day after being named 1st
Team All-ACC by several sources, Randall was named the Dudley Award winner, which is given
annually to the top football player in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
in News and Notes
Red
Storm Takes Down Hokies, 75-65 by Stefan Adams, TechSideline.com, 12/8/04, 11:45 pm
Queens, New York - The Virginia Tech men’s basketball team needed to rebound from a surprising loss
against Virginia Military Institute last week. Ironically, rebound is exactly what Tech failed to do
against St. John’s in their 75-65 loss. The Red Storm outrebounded the Hokies 48-31 and created
many second chance points for themselves, which proved to be the difference in the game. With the
loss, their second straight, Tech drops to 4-2 this season.
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Revisiting the Keys: Miami by Raleigh Hokie, 12/8/04, 11:30 am
Refusing to be intimidated by the Orange Bowl and
Hurricane rhetoric, the Hokies went into Miami, tightened their chin straps, and
came away as sole champions of the ACC. A national television audience watched
as the Hokies dictated play behind a dominating defense and an opportunistic
offense. It was classic physical Virginia Tech football, giving the Hokies their
seventh win in the last ten games against the Canes. Miami walked off their home field thoroughly confused by
what had just happened. Their high powered offense had been shut down and had it
not been for turnovers and a blocked punt, they would have been shutout as well.
The Canes defense had one of their better games of the season, but two time
consuming drives and one very big play were enough to get them beat.
in TSL Pass
Hokie
Hotline Notes for 12/6/04 by Phil Noftsinger, 12/7/04, 10:50 am
Tonight’s broadcast was live from Beamer’s Restaurant in Christiansburg, VA. The guests
included Hokies RB Coach Billy Hite and QB Coach Kevin Rogers. Head Coach Frank
Beamer and Athletic Director Jim Weaver were in New York City with Bryan
Randall, where he will receive an $18,000 post graduate scholarship from the
National Football Foundation. Coach Beamer had a pre-recorded message to send
out to the listeners tonight, and Coach Rogers claimed that he has "never in
his 31 years of coaching seen a place where there is such a great love affair
between the fans and their team and the team and their fans. It really is
terrific."
in Hotline Notes
Hokies,
Tigers Set for the Sugar Bowl by Chris James, TechSideline.com, 12/7/04, 12:05 am
After their most satisfying season since 1999, the Atlantic Coast Conference Champion Virginia Tech
Hokies will spend their New Year’s in New Orleans and will hook up with the undefeated and 3rd
ranked Auburn Tigers on January 3rd. Hokie fans certainly have had their share of experiences
in the Big Easy, as this will be Tech’s third trip there since 1995.
in News and Notes

Miami Game Analysis by Will Stewart, TechSideline.com, 12/6/04, 4:20 pm
The wins over WVU, Georgia Tech, Maryland, and Virginia
were nice, but this win against Miami will be remembered as the signature win of
the 2004 season – for the regular season, anyway – and for good reason. Not
only was it a road win over a top 10 team to clinch the conference championship,
but it was also a win that embodied the essence of the season: strong defense,
opportunistic offense, and clutch play down the stretch. If anything, this win
was the strongest example of those three traits, which have combined to send
Virginia Tech to its third Sugar Bowl in ten seasons and its fourth major bowl
during that same time frame.
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Hokies
Drop Shocker to VMI, 72-68 by Will Stewart, TechSideline.com, 12/5/04, 3:00 pm
Lexington, VA -- On a day when their football counterparts won the ACC football championship, the
Virginia Tech men's basketball team suffered an embarrassing loss to VMI, falling by 4 to the Keydets
on the road. VMI led by one at half time, extended the lead to as many as nine points in the second
half, and held on down the stretch for the win.
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ACC
CHAMPIONS!! Virginia Tech 16, Miami 10
Hokie Defense Shuts Down Canes, Locks Up Sugar Bowl Trip by Will Stewart, TechSideline.com, 12/4/04, 6:30 pm
Miami, FL — Crack open the champagne and grab the beads, the Virginia Tech Hokies are ACC champs and are headed to
New Orleans! Eddie Royal took a crossing pattern 39 yards to the house with 11:29 to go for a 16-10 Hokie lead, and the
defense made it stand up, batting down three straight Brock Berlin passes in the last minute to seal the win. The
victory is VT's eighth in a row and their first in the Orange Bowl since 1998, and with it Virginia Tech wins first
place in the ACC and a trip to the Sugar Bowl.
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