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VT Football Is One Popular Venue
by Stefan Adams,

(Note: All attendance figure as of Tuesday, November 9th, 2004)

Those of you that made the trip to Chapel Hill last weekend saw how the UNC crowd on hand at Kenan Stadium was rivaled (and surpassed on many occasions) by the Hokie crowd in attendance.

The Virginia Tech football fan base ranks among the top in the Atlantic Coast Conference, with respect to attendance. Because Lane Stadium holds 65,000 people, the cumulative home attendance number ranks 23rd best in the country.

Two things to note about being ranked 23rd is that nine schools ahead of Virginia Tech have not sold out every home game they have had this season, but because their stadiums are so large, they are putting more than 65,115 (the size of Lane) people in the seats per game. The other notable item is that six schools ranked ahead of the Hokies have played more home games than the five played in Blacksburg thus far, while only one team (Southern Cal) has played fewer.

In the ACC, Virginia Tech ranks third in total attendance so far this season. Clemson and Florida State are the two teams ranked ahead of the Hokies in total attendance figures. Death Valley in Clemson has a seating capacity of 81,473, while Doak Campbell Stadium in Tallahassee holds 82,300—both significantly larger than Lane. The Tigers rank 16th nationally and the Seminoles sit at 14th in total attendance.

Here is how the entire ACC is doing in attendance, in order.

Team (National rank in parenthesis)

Total Attendance
(Avg. in

Stadium Size (Games played)


1. Florida State (14)

412,824 (82,565)

82,300 (5)


2. Clemson (16)

395,500 (79,100)

81,473 (5)


3. Virginia Tech (23)

325,575 (65,115)

65,115 (5)


4. North Carolina (27)

314,750 (52,458)

60,000 (6)


5. Virginia (28)

305,262 (61,052)

61,500 (5)


6. NC State (37)

280,400 (56,080)

51,500 (5)


7. Maryland (40)

260,237 (52,047)

51,500 (5)


8. Miami (42)

251,283 (62,821)

72,319 (4)


9. Georgia Tech (54)

193,354 (48,339)

55,000 (4)


10. Wake Forest (68)

146,952 (29,390)

31,500 (5)


11. Duke (113)

57,269 (19,090)

33,941 (3)


There are three schools on this list, and 10 in front of Tech (including FSU) that have stadium filled percentage over 100. Anything over 100 percent is tricky, because if 109 percent of the allotted players were on the field at a time for the Hokies, they would get penalized in a second for having an extra man on the field.

As far as Tech goes, when they take the road, people come to watch. This year’s 16th-ranked Hokies are a hot ticket when they are playing on foreign turf.

Here is a comparison of average home attendance to the attendance when Tech has hit the road three times.

ACC School

Average home

Attendance when
Playing Against VT

Wake Forest



Georgia Tech



North Carolina



This can be looked at in a number of different ways. Virginia Tech fans were well-represented at each of these road games—perhaps this is why the attendance was up at all three games. The attendance in Atlanta was on par with the other home games, but remember, that game was a Thursday night game, and the weather all day was rainy, which could have kept the home numbers down (even though this does not happen in Blacksburg, where it might actually raise the numbers).

The three teams listed happen to be the three top teams in the ACC for basketball. People don’t follow football like they do in Blacksburg; they are of a different breed in each of those cities. But when the Hokies came to town, they seemed to care a little bit more.

I have one other piece of food for thought for you all. The first game of the season was played in Landover, MD against Southern California. FedEx field was the site of the BCA Classic, and also is the home of the Washington Redskins of the NFL.



Virginia Tech-Southern California


Washington Redskins

90,012 (average)

Of the four Skins home games, the highest total has been 90,367, still 1,133 less than the collegiate game on August 28.

Virginia Tech has one road game remaining on the schedule: Miami. As shown before, the Hurricanes have not been able to fill the Orange Bowl this season (86.87% of seats filled this year). However, this may change for the December 1 game against Virginia Tech.

Here are the attendance figures for the last two Virginia Tech/Miami games that have taken place at the Orange Bowl.


Average Attendance

VT/UM game att.







*Both of these figures are larger than the listed capacity at the Orange Bowl. Perhaps they were standing in the end zone without bleachers.

These numbers show that Virginia Tech can pack a stadium, no matter where they play. In 2002, the Miami Hurricanes challenged Ohio State for the national championship unsuccessfully, and their attendance was not maxed out for the season, but it was up nearly 7,000 people when the Hokies came to town.

We shall see how packed the Orange Bowl is on December 4…my guess is that UM’s 2004 average attendance will increase noticeably that day. Pass - Your Ultimate Ticket to Hokie Sports!

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Gym Rat's Notebook: 10 Keys to VT's First ACC Season (Part 2)
by Elijah Kyle, 11/12/04, 11:00 am
Clearly one thing that Seth Greenberg does not want to see this year is any of his three sophomores suffering from that dreaded sophomore jinx that so often happens in sports. With the huge contributions made from the entire freshman class last year of point guard Zabian Dowdell, guard Jamon Gordon and frontcourter Coleman Collins, the Hokies can ill afford for any of the three to see their play decline.
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Football Notes: Vince Fuller Injury Update
by Chris James,, 11/11/04, 3:55 pm
Yet again, the Hokies found themselves right in the middle of a conference championship race at the beginning of November. This time however, they are going to be in the middle of the conference championship race until at least November 18, which hasn’t been the case the past few years. One of the reasons the Hokies have been able to play so well this late into the season is the lack of injuries. Free safety Vincent Fuller sustained a shoulder injury against UNC this past weekend, and he is listed as questionable for the Maryland game.
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by, 11/11/04, 12:30 pm
This week on the Recruiting Report, Chris Horne talks about his trip to the Hargrave Military/Fork Union game last weekend and brings Hokie fans up to date on VT-bound Hargrave players William Wall, Sam Wheeler, and Brandon Holland. Quite a bit of hype is starting to build up around William Wall, and Chris Horne adds to it. (Time: 29:30)
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Tech Talk Tuesday (Streaming Audio) for 11/9/04
by, 11/10/04, 3:55 pm
Tonight's guests for Tech Talk Tuesday are VT radio analyst Mike Burnop and wrestling coach Tom Brands. The TTT trio talk about the Hokies' chances to win the ACC, and burgeoning cult hero Brands talks about VT's up-and-coming wrestling program.
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North Carolina Game Analysis
by Will Stewart,, 11/10/04, 10:00 am
Sometimes when you analyze a game you find hidden gems or little insights that cast a different light on what you think you saw. Other times, as with this game, you uncover stats, trends, or plays that serve only to strengthen your original perception. A detailed analysis of this game reveals it to be what it was: a classic game of run-oriented, ball-control, time-of-possession football orchestrated by the VT coaching staff and carried out by the players.
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Hokie Hotline Notes for 11/8/04
by Phil Noftsinger, 11/9/04, 11:45 am
Tonight’s Hokie Hotline was broadcast live from Beamer’s restaurant in Christiansburg, VA. Guests included Tech offensive coordinator Bryan Stinespring and head coach Frank Beamer. In tonight’s show Bill Roth speaks with Tech Women’s soccer coach Kelly Cagle about her team's first ever selection to the NCAA Women's Soccer Tournament. Also Mike Imoh calls into the show to talk about his record setting performance against UNC.
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Revisiting the Keys: North Carolina
by Raleigh Hokie, 11/9/04, 10:45 am
Late in the third quarter, Tech guard Jason Murphy pulled around the right side, drove UNC safety Gerald Sensabaugh back five yards and then pancaked him into the Kenan Stadium turf. Mike Imoh followed Murphy’s big block into the end zone for his second touchdown of the game, giving the Hokies a comfortable (or so it seemed) 13-point lead. The game was playing out just like the Hokies had planned – they were dominating the line of scrimmage, they were running the ball with ease, they were controlling the clock and they were keeping UNC’s offense on the sideline.
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Hokies Down EA Sports in Exhibition, 75-73
by Chris James,, 11/9/04, 2:10 am
Blacksburg, VA -- The Virginia Tech men’s basketball team got clutch performances down the stretch from sophomore guard Zabian Dowdell and highly touted freshman point guard Marquie Cooke to down the EA Sports All-Stars 75-73 in overtime in the Hokies’ first and only exhibition game Monday night in Cassell Coliseum.
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Virginia Tech 27, North Carolina 24
Imoh's Big Rushing Day Leads Hokies to Win

by Stefan Adams,, 11/6/04, 10:50 pm
Chapel Hill, N.C. — Apparently lightning does not strike twice in subsequent weekends on the campus of the University of North Carolina. After upsetting No. 3 Miami last Saturday, the Tar Heels of UNC could not repeat the feat against 18th-ranked Virginia Tech, losing 27-24. UNC trimmed a 27-14 VT lead to 27-24 with two late scores, but Carolina kicker Connor Barth missed a 54-yard field goal attempt short and left with just over a minute remaining. The Hokies were led by 236 yards rushing from Mike Imoh on 31 carries.
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Gym Rat's Notebook: 10 Keys to VT's First ACC Season (Part 1)
by Elijah Kyle, 11/5/04, 1:50 pm
Practice is two weeks old, the court in the main coliseum is clearly close to being ready for ACC basketball with the subtle updated changes, and many people are counting down the days until December 19, when North Carolina arrives at the Cassell for the first Virginia Tech ACC conference basketball game. But while most everyone acknowledges the steep road that the program has in trying to make some noise and become a bona fide player in the conference, year two of the Greenberg reign will be closely monitored to gauge just exactly where the Hokies will fit within the conference hierarchy.
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